Comparativa raquetas Wilson

[cañonazo]

Pues yo he probado hoy la k(factor) six one tour 90 que acabo de comprar, menudo pepino!, una gozada pero muy exigente, el saque me ha costado bastante, a la mínima se iba un metro larga, y el revés a dos manos, pero al final salían bien. Me ha sorprendido lo bien que lifta, el control que tiene (direccional y de profundidad, la bola va pesada pero no se va larga, es curioso), la volea (aunque he voleado muy poco), la estabilidad y sobre todo el revés cortado (espectacular con esta raqueta). La he comprado porque estéticamente es la raqueta más bonita de todas las que he visto (siempre quise tenerla desde que Federer jugaba con este paintjob, me parecía preciosa) y echar algún set de vez en cuando con ella y disfrutarla. A pesar de ser un L4 he jugado cómodo durante dos sets (mi talla es L3, aunque no he notado mucha diferencia, el grosor del grip L3 que tengo, con grip y overgrip es de 11,50 cm y el del L4 11,75cm), iba a lijarle para reducir una talla pero creo que metiendo un grip más fino se igualará sin problema. Me ha gustado más que la BLX, ya que tiene más chispa y potencia manteniendo el mismo control y manejabilidad (a pesar de que en sus especificaciones la K factor tiene mayor SW que la blx, 336 por 321), otra cosa es que pensaba que se iba a sentir muy rígida, pero al revés, me ha parecido cofortable en el golpeo (imagino que por la masa que tiene), eso sí, el peso hace pupita que jode, 360 grs con cordaje y over...

[xbargues]

tengo la wilson blx pro open pero no la que esta en el mercado ahora sino la anterior y estoy muy contento con ella. de las que hay actualmente la que mas me gusta es la wilson pro staff six one 95. Alguien que haya probado o tenido las 2 me podria decir que cambios notaria al pasar a la pro staff 95. os gusta esta raqueta? cual mas me podriais recomendar. espero vuestras respuestas

La pro staff 95 es más exigente, la pro open es mi raqueta actual y es muy equilibrada, buena salida de bola, buen control y muy cómoda, mientras que la otra te dará más control pero menos salida de bola

Si estás contento no si vale la pena cambiar, es fácil coger "raquetismo"

[mariodrive]

Coincido con xbargues, pasar de una pro open a la PS 95 no es un paso pequeño, a no ser que creas que la Pro open "se te ha quedado pequeña".
Yo manejaba una pro open a 25 kg sin problemas de carga de brazo etc... con la PS 95 mi brazo sufre lo suyo y juego con tensiones muy bajas para mi 22/21, si no no podria moverla.

[Roger_Federer]

Me uno de nuevo al club Wilson, tras mi "affair" con Yonex...

Gracias al amigo Mariodrive tuve la oportunidad de probar la prostaff six-one 95, y en cuanto vi la raqueta supe que me iba a liar la manta a la cabeza... Ultimamente ando desconectado de modelos, novedades,etc y desconocia este modelo, que se asemeja mucho a raquetas que tuve en el pasado y que conservo, la prostaff e hyperprostaff 6.0 95.

Me llamo la atención ademas que se trata de un modelo mas ligero que estos que comento, aunque por otro lado tambien tiene un perfil mas fino. Mas manejabilidad por un lado, menos potencia por otro.

En fin, que me di el capricho y tras la corta prueba hace unas semanas, ayer ya puede probar las mias de una forma mas profunda.

La verdad que las sensaciones con la raqueta son buenisimas, solida, flexible, gran control... pero comparada con mis yonex, que encima llevaban encordadas bastante tiempo (en casa de herrero...) pues la diferencia de potencia es brutal.

Habrá que bajar tensión para conseguir un extra de potencia y de paso aumentar el punto dulce, y seguir entrenando con ella para terminar de adaptarme.

Llama la atención la capacidad para generar spin, tanto liftado como cortado, aunque por caracteristicas se podia esperar debido a su finisimo perfil.

Seguiremos comentando...

[Noble Bruto]

Esa raqueta tiene unas características que me tienen loco, tengo grandes ganas de probarla, si no estuviera tan cara creo que ya me la habría comprado.

[Roger_Federer]

Que entiendes por cara?

Yo contacte con un forero que publicó un anuncio en compra-venta para hacer una compra conjunta (aprovecho tambien para darle las gracias) y nos ha salido por un precio interesante

[Noble Bruto]

Cuesta 170 pavos y yo ya me he acostumbrado a comprarlas en el foro.. 

[Roger_Federer]

137 cada una y si no hubiera sido porque uso un L4 habrían sido mas baratas ya que tuvieron que pedirlas.

[Milinco]

Pero macho si yo era el tercero en discordia en esa compra para hacerme con la pareja, jejeje... Estaremos atentos a tus sensaciones que seguro que seran interesanetes. De momento creo que todos coincidimos en las sensaciones que comentas. Yo tengo una encordada con Black Code de 1.24 a 21.5/20.5, y aun siendo una raqueta de baja potencia, yo la considero mas que suficiente. Estoy probando tambien el sensation y la verdad es que a diferencia de lo que pensaba, me esta gustando, sobre todo la comodidad. El reves con esta raqueta me tiene loco. El proximo cordaje que pruebe sera el Yonex Poly Tour Pro, seguiremos informando...Un saludo.

[Roger_Federer]

Yo de momento solo he encordado una, a 22-20 con un hibrido, para ver como iba de potencia y veo que me he pasado. Era logico pues muchas veces encuerdo con esa misma tensión en la yonex.

Creo que bajaré dos kilos de golpe en la otra, a 20-18.

Otra opción que barajo es meter algo de plomo en la cabeza, para obtener un balance más parecido a lo que estoy acostumbrado y de paso aumentar el SW

[mariodrive]

Pues yo estoy supercontento con el Luxilon 4G y la salida de bola esta mejorando sustancialmente a medida que le cojo el rollo a esto de jugar por debajo de 22 kg y el control espectacular

[Roger_Federer]

Por cierto, se me olvido comentar... raqueton en la volea 

Debido al SW se maneja muy bien y es muy facil tocar delante la volea.

[Milinco]

Bueno pues definitivamente, aunque la prueba del Sensation me ha gustado, prefiero el poly. El Black Code no es un cordaje rigido y acabo con el hombro algo mas castigado pero sin molestias y ese extra de spin se nota en esta raqueta. El otro dia pude por fin probar la BLX 6.1 95 de 309 gramos, la version asiatica. Es el modelo anterior al del 2012 pero las mismas caracteristicas. Varia algo con la PS95, aparte del teorico peso, perfil 22, balance 31.5, patron 16 x 18 y algo mas rigida. Digo lo del teorico peso porque la PS95 pesa teoricamente sin encordar 313 gramos y esta 309 gramos, y sin embargo con over y anti, las dos PS95 pesan 337 y 338 gramos respectivamente, y la 6.1 342 gramos (y lleva un anti mas ligero que las otras), eso si, el cordaje no es el mismo en las tres. Las ire pesando cuando sin cuerdas para ver las diferencias sin cordaje. En cuanto a la prueba solo pude jugar un set y luego pelotear un rato con ella, con un cordaje que no se cual es ni a que tension ya que no me dio tiempo a encordarla a mi gusto, y me comento el forero que me la vendio que llevaba tiempo encordada. Pues la verdad es que en juego las sensaciones son parecidas a la PS95. Se nota algo mas potente pero no tanto como la diferencia de caracteristicas (son todas indicativas de mayor potencia con respecto a la PS95) indican en teoria. Tendre que probarla mas a fondo cuando la encuerde pero a pesar del cordaje me parecio de similar estabilidad, algo mas de spin.. y por contra me gusta algo mas el toque de la PS95. No note diferencia en cuanto a la manejabilidad a pesar de pesar algo mas y tener menos balance HL. Una raqueta muy interesante esta... Voy a encordar (si se me quita la vangancia de encima) la PS95 con el Yonex Tour Pro que tiene muy buena critica, veremos...

[mariodrive]

Jorge, mira que eres trasto :grin: la verdad es que tambein estube mirando la venta de la 6.1 jejeje
Los problemas de hombro con la PS 95 me desaparecieron pronto, enseguida me he hecho a la raqueta

[Carlosoki]

Hola a todos:

Abro un nuevo foro de opinión sobre las nuevísimas Wilson Steam 99S y 105S cuya característica fundamental es que son los "monstruos del spin" debido a su patrón, 16x15, si, correcto, 16x15.



Model - Unstrung weight, headsize, string pattern, beam
Steam 96 - 289g, 96 sq. inch., 16x20, 22mm
Steam 99 - 304g, 99 sq. inch., 16x18, 22-24-22mm
Steam 99S - 304g, 99 sq. inch., 16x15, 22-24-22mm
Steam 105 - 289g, 105sq. inch., 16x19, 24-26-24mm
Steam 105S - 289g, 105 sq. inch., 16x15, 24-26-24mm





Mini review de la 99S de TW forum:


Specs:
99 square inches
27 inches length
strung weight: 11.3
balance: 2 pts HL
string pattern: 16:15
cross section: 24 mm






All attendees were able to hit with all the 2013 Wilson frames, but what made this event special, was being able to demo the 99s. Not only that, but be able to actually find out if it does in fact provide more spin.

Wilson set up one court with a computerized tracking system to determine the amount of spin, pace and height hit on ground strokes.

Racquets provided for this play test were the Babolat Aero Pro Drive, Head Speed MP 315, and Steam 99S. All were strung with Luxilon 4G. And balls were fed with a ball machine.

Here are my test results:

Most pace (average):
1. Head Speed MP
2. Steam 99S
3. Aero Pro Drive

Highest Net clearance (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Aero Pro Drive
3. Head Speed

Most Spin (average):
1. Steam 99S
2. Head Speed
3. Aero Pro Drive


My average spin on the Steam was over 2800 RPMs, reaching up to 3,300 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Head was 2,500 with highest being 2800 RPMs on a few shots.

Average on the Aero was 2,300 RPMs with a few shots at 2600 Rpms.

A few more notes:

Hit a few fhs with the steam a little over 80 mph (which were the fastest I recorded), and average height over the net was 63 inches.

The frame was incredibly comfortable to swing and hit with. Has a great cushiony, but very responsive feel at impact. Easy to generate power, tons of spin, and surprisingly, easy to control the shots. Great to volley with and serves were simply amazing. The heaviness of spin shots was just sick. This frame is going to be very attractive to a very wide range of players, from recreational, to mid level players, to advanced. As far as I could tell, frame really has no weaknesses.

I definitely believe this racquet is going to absolutely dominate public courts everywhere. This frame truly is a SPIN monster. Wilson absolutely knocked it out of the park with this one and Hit a Home Run.

One more note:
Every tester I saw, hit with much more spin with the 99S than with any other frame. This was backed up by the data of every playtester.







Da un 20% más de spin que la Aeroprodrive, y más potencia!!!!!!


Los probadores no notaron pérdida de control por el patrón tan abierto, pero si manifiestan necesidad de un pequeño periodo de adaptación.

SW sobre 320 (en la 99S)

Rigidez aproximada de 71.






http://youtu.be/6R8Tgt2ph4A




Os copio ahora un rewiew mucho más completo que el anterior:

For topspin, this racquet makes the ball do things that I did not think I could do. When hitting my forehand with my focus being on spin, the ball moved through the air almost like a wiffle ball dipping at an extraordinary rate. I hit a few shots that made a couple other pro's at my club (I am also a teaching pro) almost swing and miss because of the immense jump off the court due to the increased spin. Now to specific shots review.

Serve

Because this racquet is geared towards topspin, I naturally tried my kick serve first. I noticed a great deal of spin as the ball bit the court and kicked up high to my opponents shoulders. Comparing it to a 16X20/16X18 I was not blown away, but that being said I did notice that I gained more spin with this racquet.
I am happy to report that flat and slice serves were also great and I got great power on my flat serves. I was a little nervous at hitting shots without spin but found I had no problem what so ever with hitting slat serves.

Groundstrokes

Forehand This stroke is the highlight of the mini-review. The topspin forehand with this racquet was no less than impressive. I am an ex-D3 college player with a 4.5 NTRP and a teaching pro so I would assume most all of you know that I hit with the appropriate amount of topspin; that being said, I have never hit with this much topspin. I could not help but think that hitting with this much topspin reminded me of watching professional tennis at the masters in Miami and being impressed with how much the ball moves in the men's game. My ball was dipping in when I was sure it was going at least a foot out and I was basically swinging as fast as I could. This to me is the selling point for this racquet as I felt I could swing out more and not feel the consequences of hitting just long.

Hitting flat was another potential issue but I found no issues here. I will say that I do not hit very flat when I play, but one of our other pros at the club does and he was absolutely spanking the ball! It looked to me that even his flat shots had a bit of spin that helped him control the ball even more. He commented by saying that he felt he could swing out more in this department which I would agree (especially being on the other end of it!)

Backhand

For your information I play with a two-handed backhand but I can hit a good one-handed backhand. Also, I tend to hit with less spin on my backhand than on my forehand but I would assume that is how most two-handed backhand players play. The backhand was great for me and I only felt like I was hitting a little long when I was on defense just trying to punch the ball back. Other than that, when I swung out all was well. I really liked hitting angles with this stroke as you might imagine because of the increased dipping abilities.

The slice with this backhand appears to be one of the concerns as the string patters is so open and I believe that drakulie said that you really needed to go after your slice to insure the ball would not float and he is totally correct. There were a few times where I would not try and put a decent amount of bite on my slice and the ball floated long. After seeing this outcome I just drove through my slice a little more and all was good. I think with any racquet there are certain shots that take a little adjusting too and for this racquet I believe the slice will be that stroke.

Volleys

This is another stroke that I felt might be a bit subject to error but I felt absolutely no difference when hitting volleys than I would with my current six.one team (leaded to the same weight as this racquet coincidentally!) I hit a few kick serve and volleys on the Ad side (i'm right-handed) and had to dig out some tough low volleys that I placed nicely to the open court. I was afraid that I would lose control in this department but no worries as all was good here.

Dropshots

Before reviewing this stick someone on the forum asked me to check out dropshots with this racquet so I decided to try these out when the chance came during some point play. The dropshot reminded me of the slice in the sense that you needed to give it a little stick in order to hit an effective drop shot. I did just this and the ball checked very nicely and I actually hit three winners this way, so that was nice! Overall I liked hitting dropshots with this racquet because you could be confident in the stroke and gain rewards with the extra bite after it contacted the court.

Playing against the 99S

I feel like this part of the review is important because I had a unique chance of fighting fire....with fire! Another pro and I hit against each other with the 99S's and it was almost comical. The rallies simply looked different. While in the rallies it looked like we were playing ping-pong as the ball was dipping and diving at such an extreme rate. We both tried to only hit heavy topspin and was incredible how much the ball moved. The other pro I was hitting with even got on the outside of the ball while hitting topspin and the ball was almost bouncing like a kick-serve; just nasty!

I also hit against another pro who was trying the new 93 blade (awesome, awesome paint job by the way) and I was making hit mishit all day long. My spin simply just put him on his heels.

Wrap-up

My opinion of this racquet is no secret. In the gear article on tennis.com they state that this racquet will specifically help recreational players which I agree with but I would also add just about anyone up to 5.0-5.5. The spin science that went into this racquet is no gimmic, it is actual truth. For those who say it's marketing are incorrect as they have never tried this stick or probably have not read up on the actual data behind the racquet.

One thing that I will say that concerned me was the stiffness of the frame as it felt more stiff than my current racquet but I also string my poly's in the low 40's and I believe that the demo was strung in the recommended range which was probably 55lbs or so.

For me this racquet opened up different parts of the court that only players on the tour are capable of, so for that, I thank Wilson for their research and development of this racquet.