Nueva propuesta de Toni Nadal: Acortar las raquetas

[berdinda]

En el golf, cuando los palos desprendían más potencia, impulsando la bola más lejos, alargaron los campos. En tenis no puedes alargar la pista, pero hay otra solución mucho más simple: si la raqueta fuera más pequeña, probablemente la cosa cambiaría

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2015/01/656-614010-9-la-curiosa-propuesta-del-tio-de-nadal-para-evitar-que-el-tenis-pierda-atractivo.shtml

[berdinda]

Y puestos a opinar, mi propuesta es que, en tenis sea como en baloncesto, que no se puedan dar más de 3 pasos sin dar a la pelota.  :tongue:

[Nostromo]

En el 2000 o 2001 un grupo de leyendas, entre las que estaba McEnroe y creo que Borg, ya hablaro de introducir cambios en las raquetas para evitar tanta velocidad y potencia.

No prospero entonces y no creo que lo haga ahora.

La tendencia es que los tenistas sean cada vez mas altos, eso es un hecho, la mayoria de los jovenes son de 1,90 para arriba.

[symphonyx75]

q hagan las pistas mas lentas
eso seguro q haria muuuuuuuuyyyyy feliz al clan mayorkin

[henri leconte]

La tendencia es que los tenistas sean cada vez mas altos, eso es un hecho, la mayoria de los jovenes son de 1,90 para arriba.

Entonces lo que hay que modificar en proporción en el tamaño de las pistas, comparar los percentiles de hace 50 años con los de ahora y agrandarlas un poquito y subir la red también unos centímetros   :evil:

[berdinda]

O reducir todo en proporción, la raqueta, las pelotas, la red, la pista, los jueces  :grin:

[Nostromo]

Ya se hablo de reducir el cuadro de saque

[berdinda]

Cuando dices "se habló" quieres decir que la atp lo valoró o que algún tenista o entrenador lo comentó tipo tío Toni?  :preg:

Espero que no te refieras a los comentarios de McEnroe dónde afirmaba también que había que volver a la raqueta de madera.   :cool:

[Nostromo]

Cuando dices "se habló" quieres decir que la atp lo valoró o que algún tenista o entrenador lo comentó tipo tío Toni?  :preg:

Te pongo el parrafo

"Few are panicking just yet. Indeed, this equilibrium appears to have been restored to the sport over the past decade. In the late 1990s, the big servers seemed unstoppable and rallies of more than three shots were a rarity. The nadir came in 2001, when Croatia's Goran Ivanisevic, then ranked 125th in the world, served up a record 213 aces on his way to winning Wimbledon, beating Australia's Pat Rafter, another big server, in the final. A year later, in his autobiography Serious, John McEnroe, a 1970s star, proposed making several changes to boost interest in the game. These included moving the service line closer to the net and mandating the use of smaller and less-powerful wooden rackets. The following year a group of former Wimbledon champions including Mr McEnroe, Bjorn Borg and Martina Navratilova penned an open letter to the ITF demanding a reduction in the size of rackets. It was the last major call for changes the governing body has received.

No solo Mac, tambien Borg y Navratilova. Esto ya se ha hablado.

[berdinda]

Lo que publicas son comentarios de tenistas como lo de hoy es un comentario de tío Toni. Insisto ¿La atp lo ha valorado en algún momento?

[Nostromo]

No se si la ATP lo ha valorado, pero la ITF si esta atenta al tema del incremento de la potencia en el tenis.

The International Tennis Federation, the sport's governing body, is starting to get concerned about just how long the game can continue to evolve this way before it becomes unplayable. While innovations in racket and string technology have previously introduced more power into the game, the players themselves are responsible for the changes happening today. Taller, stronger and fitter than past generations, they have also been exploiting new methods of training. "The danger is that if the game continues to get more dynamic, and players continue to hit the ball harder, then at some point the equilibrium you have between striker and receiver will be lost," says Stuart Miller, the ITF's head of science and technology. Fans would surely lose interest if the prolonged rally disappeared and the game degenerated into a mind-numbing series of aces.

Me sorprenderia que la ITF este preocupada con el asunto, y la ATP no.

P.D. Me gusta que pongas a Toni de ejmplo, VIVA el nadalcentrsimo!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[berdinda]

No se si la ATP lo ha valorado, pero la ITF si esta atenta al tema del incremento de la potencia en el tenis.
Me sorprenderia que la ITF este preocupada con el asunto, y la ATP no.

P.D. Me gusta que pongas a Toni de ejmplo, VIVA el nadalcentrsimo!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Por lo que yo entiendo no le dieron importancia, así que preocupados a lo mejor es demasiado (de hecho esto tiene unos cuantos años y nada ha cambiado).

Few are panicking just yet. Indeed, this equilibrium appears to have been restored to the sport over the past decade. In the late 1990s, the big servers seemed unstoppable and rallies of more than three shots were a rarity. The nadir came in 2001, when Croatia's Goran Ivanisevic, then ranked 125th in the world, served up a record 213 aces on his way to winning Wimbledon, beating Australia's Pat Rafter, another big server, in the final. A year later, in his autobiography Serious, John McEnroe, a 1970s star, proposed making several changes to boost interest in the game. These included moving the service line closer to the net and mandating the use of smaller and less-powerful wooden rackets. The following year a group of former Wimbledon champions including Mr McEnroe, Bjorn Borg and Martina Navratilova penned an open letter to the ITF demanding a reduction in the size of rackets. It was the last major call for changes the governing body has received.

What has happened since then? Many observers suspect tournament organisers have slowed down court surfaces, introducing materials to make the ball lose speed on its bounce. This would certainly have taken the sting out of serves and facilitated longer rallies. The ITF, however, says there is no evidence of systematic and deliberate manipulation of court pace. Its view is that players have simply adapted to the new power play—either by improving their footwork or by reading more advanced cues from a server. Yet Mr McEnroe and his supporters may not be entirely happy. In their 2003 letter, they harked for a return to the style of tennis played in the 1980s. Of greater concern to the ITF is that players can only adapt so much. As Mr Miller puts it, if certain "hard physiological limits" were broken, the receiver would stand no chance. At that point, authorities would need to intervene.

As far as the ITF sees it, wooden rackets are definitely not the answer. For a start, they can generate similar ball pace to carbon-fibre ones if swung quickly enough. In addition, as the ball travels only about four centimetres across the racket face during a modern forehand stroke, there is still enough space on a wooden racket to produce terrific amounts of topspin. Because they do not allow the same margin for error as today's rackets, players might opt for a safer and less powerful approach. But that is far from being a certainty. Even if this happened, the style of play would not necessarily revert to that from 30 years ago.

A more likely intervention would be some fiddling with court pace. That may have happened anyway without the ITF's involvement, but the governing body is beginning to weigh into this area. Nations hosting Davis Cup and Fed Cup matches are not allowed to manipulate court pace outside certain boundaries established by the ITF. That prevents Spain from constructing super-slow clay courts, or the United States from designing lightning-quick hard ones, to suit their own players' preferred styles. The ITF has also developed a larger tennis ball, called the Type 3, which travels more slowly through the air. This did not catch on when introduced in 2002 because the problems it was intended to address, such as nullifying the power of the big servers, were soon being solved in other ways. Yet the option remains available to tournaments under ITF regulations.

P.D. He puesto a Tío Toni porque el hilo trata de él y de un comentario suyo.

[Nostromo]

Ah bueno,  entonces si  no ha cambiado nada, los miles de mensajes acerca de la ralentización de las superficies han sido para nada, ya q como dices todo sigue igual y no ha habido tal ralentización. 

[raqueton]

Yo prohibiría participar en los grandes torneos a todo tenista que superara el 1,85 de estatura así como a los que tengan registros de saque a una velocidad superior a 195 km/h.

[berdinda]

Ah bueno,  entonces si  no ha cambiado nada, los miles de mensajes acerca de la ralentización de las superficies han sido para nada, ya q como dices todo sigue igual y no ha habido tal ralentización. 

Nosotromo, estábamos hablando de acortar las raquetas y reducir el cuadro de saque. A partir de aquí puedes tergiversar todo lo que quieras sin mi participación.

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